I've seen the video of pastor Byron Brazier explaining why he expelled a long-time member from the church. In the video he claims the expulsion was because same sex marriage goes against scripture.
* I have several questions and comments on the issue, and most of my questions and comments are legal as well as scriptural.
Question one: Can a pastor unilaterally expel someone from the church or should the church's board decide?
Question two: Is said action a violation of ones civil rights which says same sex marriage is the law of the land?
Question three: Is the church a public place like libraries, schools, parks, and other public places anyone can attend regardless of sexual orientation?
Question four: If a public place discriminates thwarts ones legal rights should that place receive government funding?
Question five: If a church can expel people because of sexual orientation can a church also expel people because of moral issues such as if a church bylaws state "all bastard children cannot attend this church?"
Click below link to hear pastor Dr. Byron Brazier explain his reasons for expelling a long-time member who recently married a same sex partner:
Don't get me wrong, I think pastor Dr. Byron Brazier is a great man; however, I disagree with him on this issue. His father the late, great Bishop Dr. Arthur M. Brazier of whom I personally knew and invited me to join the Pentecostal Assemblies of the World (international governing body of the Apostolic Church of God) as a minister, taught "Once saved, always saved".
I can't help but wonder if that same doctrine which was vehemently taught at the Apostolic Church of God under the leadership of the late Bishop Dr. Arthur M. Brazier applies to LGBTQ folks?
Barack Obama, the late Bishop Dr. Arthur M. Brazier,
current pastor Dr. Byron Brazier.
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support LGBTQ rights!
It's interesting how religious people love to quote "Separation of Church and State" while failing to realize that's a quote from Thomas Jefferson (not) the United States Constitution!
The United States Constitution does not say "Separation of Church and State!" It says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." - The First Amendment
"...Thomas Jefferson said "Separation of Church and State". God didn't say that...see, we can't have it both ways. We can't say gay marriage is man's law, yet we quote man's "supposedly" law about separation of church and state.
The separation of church and state (government) is nothing more than a quote. It's not actual law. I mean...doesn't the church need permits from the state to build? Doesn't the church need permission from the state to own the land in which it sits? Doesn't the state (government) gives the church tax exemptions? When a person decides to start a church, said person must fill out articles of incorporation and have all paperwork filed with the state (government), right? When a clergymen conducts a marriage ceremony doesn't s/he say "By the power invested in me by the STATE of ____________ I now pronounce you husband and wife? So then how is the Church and State i.e. government separate?
The main scripture people love to use to bash homosexuality is Leviticus 20:13. Question, I thought the book of Leviticus was written for the Levites? I also thought Christians weren't under the yoke of the Old Testament, but were under the New Testament?
In the New Testament I have yet to see Christ talk about homosexuality. He does talk about sexual propensity when he discussed eunuchs. Let's remember what a eunuch was during the times of Christ and even during slavery in the United States of America.
A eunuch is a man who has been castrated, especially in (the past) one employed to guard the women's living areas at an oriental court. An ineffectual person. George Washington Carver was made a eunuch by force during slavery.
The results of being a eunuch (castration) means loss of libido which is sexual desire, hot flashes, genital shrinkage, high related sociability, mental and physical health.
In essence, being a eunuch meant to have your genitals surgically removed or transformed...thus making one transgendered!
Jesus touched on eunuchs, castration and sexual propensity in (Matthew 19:12) "For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it".
If people are born eunuchs, are there people also born homosexuals as well? Aren't there homosexuals born from their mother's womb? Aren't there homosexuals made homosexuals by men? Aren't there homosexuals which have made themselves homosexuals?
What most people fail to understand is God is more concerned with our character and the way we treat people more so than who we decide to love!
Think about it, didn't Abraham marry his half-sister Sarah? So is God okay with incest? Abraham and his half-sister Sarah gave birth to Issac. Isn't Abraham considered the father of faith even though his marriage was out of incest?
Most self-righteous and conservative Christians love to call homosexuality an abomination...
Out of the "7 Abominations" according to the Bible, it's interesting there's no mention of homosexuality; however, there are mentions of ones character such as: a proud look, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, an evil heart, those who commit mischief, a false witness that speaks lies, a person who sows discord among brethren (Proverbs 6:16-19).
Most self-righteous and conservative Christians take pleasure in claiming God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of homosexuality. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Especially when the Bible clearly states why Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed.
Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because of guess what? Wait for it...character traits!
In (Ezekiel 16:48-50) KJV,
God describes why Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed. The reasons were because of pride, fullness of bread or gluttony, idleness, abuse of the poor, and arrogance! Wow, no mention of homosexuality in the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Thus when a self-righteous or conservative Christians falsely claim God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because men in the village wanted to sleep with male angels protecting Lot (Genesis 19:5), I have to vehemently laugh.
Could it be the men asked Lot to send out the male angels because they wanted to inspect them relative to if angels had genitals? Could it be the men wanted to know if angels were aliens? Or possibly the men wanted to fight the angels?
Either way, Ezekiel 16:48-50 (KJV) are the reasons why Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed!
If God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of sexual sins, why didn't God destroy Lot and his daughters for incest? Genesis 19:31-40, explains Lot's daughters getting him drunk, having sex with him and bearing children. Why didn't God at least destroy the children from this incestuous relationship?
According to my research as a minister and a doctor of divinity, I do not believe the God of the universe of whom is the universe, discriminates thwarts ones sexual propensity based in love.
The God of the universe has created sexuality to be enjoyed in all facets. The God of the universe respects the spirituality, science and nature of sexuality and all its normal and abnormal forms from heterosexual, bisexual, homosexual, as well as hermaphrodite plants, animals and humans.
The most hypocritical thing about this whole situation is pastor Dr. Byron Brazier's son is GAY! Yes, the son of Dr. Byron Brazier, the man who expelled a gay member from his church also has a gay son.
Byron Brazier Jr (far left)
Byron Brazier Jr (far right)
Does pastor Dr. Byron Brazier love his gay son? Does his gay son even feel comfortable in attending the church led by his great grandfather and now father? Is Dr. Brazier's son also expelled from the church? At some point the church has to stop trying to tell people whom to love and/or how to love. The job of a preacher is to preach the good news.
Expelling someone from a church because of skin color or sexual orientation is wrong! It's discrimination. It's what people like Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., meant when he said "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere".
The Black/African American church must begin to deal with its own hypocrisy. It's okay for gay people to make hit gospel songs. It's okay for gay people to sing in the choir. It's okay for gay people to lead praise and worship service, but it's not okay for gay people to marry one another and attend the very churches they give their money and talents to? WOW!
This is why so many LGBTQ Christians suffer in silence. This is why the suicide rates among LGBTQ is so high. Because religious and political talking-heads think they have the right to control how people decide to live their lives!
At the end of the day none of us are perfect, normal or whole. We're all broken. However, love and helping our fellow wo/man is what's most important to God.